Comments on: Font Sadness http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/ Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:30:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nathan Holstein http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-104513 Nathan Holstein Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:56:19 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-104513 Inspired by this post and the recent release of the STIX fonts beta, I submitted this patch (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495510). Comments welcome! Inspired by this post and the recent release of the STIX fonts beta, I submitted this patch (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495510). Comments welcome!

]]> By: Pete Boyd http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-104098 Pete Boyd Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:50:38 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-104098 jojomonkey: I know I could run nautilus from the command-line, but you would have thought GNOME itself would have a means to become root for those things that required it, as there is in the printer config UI. jojomonkey: I know I could run nautilus from the command-line, but you would have thought GNOME itself would have a means to become root for those things that required it, as there is in the printer config UI.

]]> By: Andrew Conkling http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-102005 Andrew Conkling Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:37:28 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-102005 @Pete: Yeah, Aaron's Ctrl+L comment was directed at someone using GNOME 2.16+. You can see more info here: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/en/rnbackend.html. @Pete: Yeah, Aaron’s Ctrl+L comment was directed at someone using GNOME 2.16+. You can see more info here: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/en/rnbackend.html.

]]> By: jojomonkey http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-101631 jojomonkey Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:27:12 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-101631 Pete: If you want a root nautilus session, run nautilus as sudo (or su - root) via terminal. Pete:
If you want a root nautilus session, run nautilus as sudo (or su – root) via terminal.

]]> By: Pete Boyd http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-101061 Pete Boyd Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:08:16 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-101061 After reading this post today I lerned a few things, so tried them out and had a few questions. Here's what I found out and what so far remains unanswered, as applies to Debian 4.0 Etch's GNOME 2.14.3. I'd appreciate any comments: GNOME has a location you can copy fonts to to install them: fonts://. This seems to be a compendium of all the system fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and below and your personal fonts in ~/.fonts. If you, logged in as an ordinary user, drag and drop, or copy and paste, fonts there it saves them in ~/.fonts and they're subsequently only available to you. When you do paste into there, you won't see the font appear in the list, though if you try to copy it again GNOME will say it is there and it is actually there. I haven't tried but you may have to logout and login again to see them in the list, which is counter intuitive. Presumably you need to be root to put fonts there to be available for the system, rather than for you individually? There's no way to 'become root' through the UI so how do you do this? log into GNOME as root? (I've never actually considered doing that before) And if you do login to GNOME as root and copy a font to fonts://, will they actually be saved in root's ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts/truetype/? Does any or all of this apply to non-truetype fonts? If I select to download a font from the web, it defaults to opening in gnome-font-viewer but you can't do anything in gnome-font-viewer other than look at it, which seems kind of pointless, what you want is buttons to 'install' and be asked 'Install for just you' or 'Install for all users', with the latter asking for the root password. Maybe later versions of GNOME do this. Aaron said : "Control-L will show the location bar; also it’s a toggle option under the “Go” menu." Well for me it gives a dialog asking where you want to go. What i used to like was an actual location bar, along the top of the window, like a web browser has. I don't have a "Go" menu, maybe I have to wait for my next dose of GNOME from Debian in a year and a half. After reading this post today I lerned a few things, so tried them out and had a few questions. Here’s what I found out and what so far remains unanswered, as applies to Debian 4.0 Etch’s GNOME 2.14.3. I’d appreciate any comments:

GNOME has a location you can copy fonts to to install them: fonts://. This seems to be a compendium of all the system fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ and below and your personal fonts in ~/.fonts.

If you, logged in as an ordinary user, drag and drop, or copy and paste, fonts there it saves them in ~/.fonts and they’re subsequently only available to you.
When you do paste into there, you won’t see the font appear in the list, though if you try to copy it again GNOME will say it is there and it is actually there. I haven’t tried but you may have to logout and login again to see them in the list, which is counter intuitive.

Presumably you need to be root to put fonts there to be available for the system, rather than for you individually?
There’s no way to ‘become root’ through the UI so how do you do this? log into GNOME as root? (I’ve never actually considered doing that before)
And if you do login to GNOME as root and copy a font to fonts://, will they actually be saved in root’s ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts/truetype/?

Does any or all of this apply to non-truetype fonts?

If I select to download a font from the web, it defaults to opening in gnome-font-viewer but you can’t do anything in gnome-font-viewer other than look at it, which seems kind of pointless, what you want is buttons to ‘install’ and be asked ‘Install for just you’ or ‘Install for all users’, with the latter asking for the root password. Maybe later versions of GNOME do this.

Aaron said : “Control-L will show the location bar; also it’s a toggle option under the “Go” menu.”

Well for me it gives a dialog asking where you want to go. What i used to like was an actual location bar, along the top of the window, like a web browser has.
I don’t have a “Go” menu, maybe I have to wait for my next dose of GNOME from Debian in a year and a half.

]]> By: Aaron Bockover http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-100970 Aaron Bockover Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:44:40 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-100970 Control-L will show the location bar; also it's a toggle option under the "Go" menu. Control-L will show the location bar; also it’s a toggle option under the “Go” menu.

]]> By: Pete Boyd http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-100885 Pete Boyd Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:24:01 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-100885 You can get to fonts:// (at least in Debian Etch's Nautilus 2.14.3 which I'm using) via File -> Open Location... -> enter fonts:// -> Open Nautilus used to have a very useful location bar but it disappeared at some point. Is it possible to get it back? You can get to fonts:// (at least in Debian Etch’s Nautilus 2.14.3 which I’m using) via File -> Open Location… -> enter fonts:// -> Open

Nautilus used to have a very useful location bar but it disappeared at some point. Is it possible to get it back?

]]> By: jojomonkey http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-100411 jojomonkey Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:31:33 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-100411 just drag and drop into 'fonts:///' and restart the xfs. i've had magic luck w/ gettings fonts to be picked up w/o having to restart xfs but usually i end up having to open the terminal. troll: can't agree w/ you more. i'm anal about fonts - have found 'folks-light' @ 10px to be great though on GNOME. just drag and drop into ‘fonts:///’ and restart the xfs.
i’ve had magic luck w/ gettings fonts to be picked up w/o having to restart xfs but usually i end up having to open the terminal.

troll: can’t agree w/ you more. i’m anal about fonts – have found ‘folks-light’ @ 10px to be great though on GNOME.

]]> By: Rui http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-99840 Rui Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:10:57 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-99840 On the font preferences dialog if you click "Details..." you can then click on "Go to font folder" which opens up nautilus on fonts:// Still, maybe not that discoverable :-( On the font preferences dialog if you click “Details…” you can then click on “Go to font folder” which opens up nautilus on fonts://

Still, maybe not that discoverable :-(

]]> By: ethana2 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/comment-page-1/#comment-99829 ethana2 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:35:59 +0000 http://abock.org/2007/11/01/font-sadness/#comment-99829 Andrew Conkling, that's genius. You have my vote. Andrew Conkling, that’s genius. You have my vote.

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