Comments on: We need you! (and apple sucks – part 2) http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/ Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:30:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: This Much I Know - » Detecting iPods programmatically (part 2) http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34568 This Much I Know - » Detecting iPods programmatically (part 2) Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:38:52 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-34568 [...] A while back, I wrote a post about detecting iPods connected to your Mac, and finding out their model number in order to deduce information such as the iPod model and colour. Then, in September, Aaron Bockover of the Banshee Project informed me that Apple have changed their approach to storing this information, and no longer store it in an easily-accessible file. It is now hidden in the iPod’s SCSI codepages, and these are remarkably tricky to access and query under Mac OS X. Fortunately, I’ve worked out how to do it The iPodLinux project wiki provided me with the base information about how this info is stored in the SCSI codepages, for which I am eternally grateful. Kudos to Aaron for deducing this info and sharing it with me too. The missing link was now how to query these codepages under Mac OS X. [...] [...] A while back, I wrote a post about detecting iPods connected to your Mac, and finding out their model number in order to deduce information such as the iPod model and colour. Then, in September, Aaron Bockover of the Banshee Project informed me that Apple have changed their approach to storing this information, and no longer store it in an easily-accessible file. It is now hidden in the iPod’s SCSI codepages, and these are remarkably tricky to access and query under Mac OS X. Fortunately, I’ve worked out how to do it The iPodLinux project wiki provided me with the base information about how this info is stored in the SCSI codepages, for which I am eternally grateful. Kudos to Aaron for deducing this info and sharing it with me too. The missing link was now how to query these codepages under Mac OS X. [...]

]]> By: LorenzoRidi.net » Blog Archive » iPod on Linux? http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-27325 LorenzoRidi.net » Blog Archive » iPod on Linux? Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:03:40 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-27325 [...] Reading here and there on the Internet, i found some interesting posts: this one by Crispin (it’s practically the same as mine!… Except for the fact that in Ubuntu Edgy Rythmbox seems to work fine… now I’m too tired to go checking, and I’ve got an exam tomorrow) and this one by Aaron Bockover (that comes just after another very interesting post about pasta… well, at least I appreciate the inspiration… after all, I’m italian ) [...] [...] Reading here and there on the Internet, i found some interesting posts: this one by Crispin (it’s practically the same as mine!… Except for the fact that in Ubuntu Edgy Rythmbox seems to work fine… now I’m too tired to go checking, and I’ve got an exam tomorrow) and this one by Aaron Bockover (that comes just after another very interesting post about pasta… well, at least I appreciate the inspiration… after all, I’m italian ) [...]

]]> By: Chris Geddes http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-16519 Chris Geddes Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:04:23 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-16519 Aaron... Are these helping? Do you still need more? Aaron… Are these helping? Do you still need more?

]]> By: Chris Geddes http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-16518 Chris Geddes Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:03:13 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-16518 From my Ipod Video 30 gb BoardHwName: iPod M25 pszSerialNumber: 4J552YDJSZ9 ModelNumStr: MA002 FirewireGuid: 0x000A270014C72BD8 HddFirmwareRev: BU111A RegionCode: LL(0x0001) PolicyFlags: 0x00000002 buildID: 0x06108000 (6.1) visibleBuildID: 0x01108000 (1.1) boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0x000B0005 (0.0.11 5) bootLoaderImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diskModeImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diagImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) osImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) iPodFamily: 0x00000000 updaterFamily: 0x00000000 From my Ipod Video 30 gb

BoardHwName: iPod M25
pszSerialNumber: 4J552YDJSZ9
ModelNumStr: MA002
FirewireGuid: 0×000A270014C72BD8
HddFirmwareRev: BU111A
RegionCode: LL(0×0001)
PolicyFlags: 0×00000002
buildID: 0×06108000 (6.1)
visibleBuildID: 0×01108000 (1.1)
boardHwRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0×000B0005 (0.0.11 5)
bootLoaderImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diskModeImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diagImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
osImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
iPodFamily: 0×00000000
updaterFamily: 0×00000000

]]> By: Jebb http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9301 Jebb Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:41:20 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-9301 From my 4Go Nano: BoardHwName: iPod M26 pszSerialNumber: 5U6130J7TK2 ModelNumStr: MA107 FirewireGuid: 0x000A27001807A151 HddFirmwareRev: ADBA41KB RegionCode: FD(0x0003) PolicyFlags: 0x00000001 buildID: 0x05118000 (5.1.1) visibleBuildID: 0x01118000 (1.1.1) boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0x000C0006 (0.0.12 6) bootLoaderImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diskModeImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diagImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) osImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) iPodFamily: 0x00000000 updaterFamily: 0x00000000 From my 4Go Nano:
BoardHwName: iPod M26
pszSerialNumber: 5U6130J7TK2
ModelNumStr: MA107
FirewireGuid: 0×000A27001807A151
HddFirmwareRev: ADBA41KB
RegionCode: FD(0×0003)
PolicyFlags: 0×00000001
buildID: 0×05118000 (5.1.1)
visibleBuildID: 0×01118000 (1.1.1)
boardHwRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0×000C0006 (0.0.12 6)
bootLoaderImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diskModeImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diagImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
osImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
iPodFamily: 0×00000000
updaterFamily: 0×00000000

]]> By: MarteyDodoo.com » Saying No to the iPod http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8425 MarteyDodoo.com » Saying No to the iPod Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:28:16 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-8425 [...] But I use Linux, so I would need to rely on third-party programs like Banshee or Rhythmbox to manage my iPod. This would be fine, but Apple makes it difficult for such programs to work by constantly changing the internal formats and files that make the iPod work. This is fine for people using Windows or OS X, because the vast majority of them are using iTunes, which is updated each time that Apple decides to change something. For Linux users, it is necessary for the developers of their programs to realize that something is wrong, and then somehow figure it out in order to get updated iPods working. From my point of view, it seems stupid to give Apple money so that they can produce programs and firmware updates that will stop my iPod from working. [...] [...] But I use Linux, so I would need to rely on third-party programs like Banshee or Rhythmbox to manage my iPod. This would be fine, but Apple makes it difficult for such programs to work by constantly changing the internal formats and files that make the iPod work. This is fine for people using Windows or OS X, because the vast majority of them are using iTunes, which is updated each time that Apple decides to change something. For Linux users, it is necessary for the developers of their programs to realize that something is wrong, and then somehow figure it out in order to get updated iPods working. From my point of view, it seems stupid to give Apple money so that they can produce programs and firmware updates that will stop my iPod from working. [...]

]]> By: iPod + Linux woes; doubts about Linux. « Salmon’s Quest. http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8380 iPod + Linux woes; doubts about Linux. « Salmon’s Quest. Sun, 08 Oct 2006 05:49:04 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-8380 [...] I looked on the Ubuntu Forums for details about this mystery, and finally found this piece by one of the developers of Banshee, a music player for Linux. Apparently, in their latest iPods (i.e. 2nd-generation Nanos), Apple decided to remove a file from the filesystem that is not used by the iPod but by projects such as Banshee, Amarok and GTKPod to access the contents of the iPod. So, this basically means support for iPod in Linux, which had been fairly decent for a long time, is now suddenly broken, until this problem can be patched. [...] [...] I looked on the Ubuntu Forums for details about this mystery, and finally found this piece by one of the developers of Banshee, a music player for Linux. Apparently, in their latest iPods (i.e. 2nd-generation Nanos), Apple decided to remove a file from the filesystem that is not used by the iPod but by projects such as Banshee, Amarok and GTKPod to access the contents of the iPod. So, this basically means support for iPod in Linux, which had been fairly decent for a long time, is now suddenly broken, until this problem can be patched. [...]

]]> By: jpoa http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8101 jpoa Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:41:47 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-8101 By the way, the video rocks. There is no point arguing with alikes. Just my 2 cents... By the way, the video rocks. There is no point arguing with alikes. Just my 2 cents…

]]> By: jpoa http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8100 jpoa Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:40:18 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-8100 Aaron, keep up. Thanks man! Aaron, keep up.
Thanks man!

]]> By: james D Tyler http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7636 james D Tyler Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:46:25 +0000 http://abock.org/2006/09/14/we-need-you-and-apple-sucks-part-2/#comment-7636 here's my gen4 ipod info. the linuxlinktechshow passed a link to here in their latest podcast. let me know if you need anythign else. BoardHwName: iPod Q21 pszSerialNumber: 4U444GFTPS9 ModelNumStr: M9282 FirewireGuid: 0x000A270002AF6203 HddFirmwareRev: JD100B RegionCode: LL(0x0001) PolicyFlags: 0x00000000 buildID: 0x03118000 (3.1.1) visibleBuildID: 0x03118000 (3.1.1) boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0x00050013 (0.0.5 19) bootLoaderImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diskModeImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) diagImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) osImageRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) iPodFamily: 0x00000004 updaterFamily: 0x00000004 here’s my gen4 ipod info. the linuxlinktechshow passed a link to here in their latest podcast. let me know if you need anythign else.
BoardHwName: iPod Q21
pszSerialNumber: 4U444GFTPS9
ModelNumStr: M9282
FirewireGuid: 0×000A270002AF6203
HddFirmwareRev: JD100B
RegionCode: LL(0×0001)
PolicyFlags: 0×00000000
buildID: 0×03118000 (3.1.1)
visibleBuildID: 0×03118000 (3.1.1)
boardHwRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
boardHwSwInterfaceRev: 0×00050013 (0.0.5 19)
bootLoaderImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diskModeImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
diagImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
osImageRev: 0×00000000 (0.0 0)
iPodFamily: 0×00000004
updaterFamily: 0×00000004

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